Robert Smail 1787-1847 and Isobel Murray 1789-?

"Philiphaugh" by anonymous artist/engraver, published in The Imperial Gazetteer of Scotland, about 1857. Image courtesy of ancestryimages.com

 4th Great grandparents – Maternal mother’s line of Randall Family

Robert Smail

When Robert Smail was born in about 1787 in Roxburghshire, Scotland, his father James and his mother Janet was 23. He married Isobel Murray on 15 December 1810 in Yetholm, Roxburghshire, Scotland. They had seven children in 14 years.

Birth, Baptism and Christening

Robert Smail was born in about 1787 in Roxburghshire, Scotland, to James Smail and Janet Stenhouse, both aged 23. His baptism and christening was held on 4 October 1789 in Lilliesleaf, Roxburghshire, Scotland.

Siblings of Robert Smail
  • Andrew Smail [b.1786]
  • Margaret Smail [b.1788] – subject to review, LDS ID: LRJZ-8TB, other birth in 1805
  • James Smail [b.1790]
  • Williamina Smail [b.1795]
  • James Smail [b.1796]
  • Margaret Smail [b.1805]
  • Thomas Smail [b.1808]
Occupation

During the period 1813 – 1827 Robert was employed as a miller at the Caddon Corn Mill by Mr. Smart, owner of the mill. As well as helping Robert at the mill, Isobel was busy looking after their seven children.

Occupation Between 1839–1845

Robert continued to work as a Miller of corn as well as being an Eastlands Farm tenant near Galashiels, Selkirkshire, Scotland.

Death and Burial Details

Robert Smail died on 10 December 1847 in Galashiels, Selkirkshire, Scotland, when he was 60 years old. Robert was buried in Galashiels, Selkirkshire, Scotland.


 Isobel Murray

Isobel Murray was born in Roxburghshire, Scotland, the daughter of William Murray and Isobel Richardson. She married Robert Smail on 15 December 1810 in Yetholm, Roxburghshire, Scotland. They had seven children in 14 years.

Birth, Baptism and Christening

Isobel Murray was born in about 1789 in Roxburghshire, Scotland, the daughter of William Murray and Isobel Richardson. Her baptism and christening was held on 14 June 1789 at the Associate Congregation Or Free Church, in Jedburgh, Roxburghshire, Scotland

Siblings of Isobel Murray
  • Betty Murray [b.1793]
Death and Burial Details

The fate of Isobel Smail née Murray is unknown. However, it’s not impossible that an Isabel Smailes who died in nearby Northumberland, England was our Isobel Smail; she was buried at Embleton, by the Northumberland Unitary Authority.


Place holder for marriage details.

Isabel Murray, 19 years old, married Robert Smail, 23 years old, in Yetholm, Roxburghshire, on 15 December 1810.

Extract from Marriage record for Robert Smail and Isabel Murray

Robert Smail and his wife Isobel had seven children in 15 years.

Birth of Children 1812 – 1826
  1. Daughter Helen was born on 21 October 1812 in Caddonlee1, Stow, Midlothian, Scotland. Helen died on 10 July 1858 in Sydney, New South Wales.
  2. Son James was born on 21 August 1813 in “Caddonmill” Clovenfords, Selkirkshire, Scotland. James died on 15 March 1860 in Sydney, New South Wales.
  3. Son Alexander was born on 14 May 1816 in “Caddonmill” Clovenfords, Selkirkshire, Scotland. Alexander died on 8 October 1867 in Sydney, New South Wales.
  4. Daughter Janet was born on 15 June 1818 in “Caddonmill” Clovenfords, Selkirkshire, Scotland. Janet died in 1891.
  5. Daughter Isabella was born on 12 March 1821 in “Caddonmill” Clovenfords, Selkirkshire, Scotland.
  6. Son Robert was born on 4 April 1824 in “Caddonmill” Clovenfords, Selkirkshire, Scotland. Robert died in 1893 in Galashiels, Selkirkshire.
  7. Son John was born on 25 March 1826 in “Caddonmill” Clovenfords, Selkirkshire, Scotland. John died in 1893 in Galashiels, Selkirkshire.

1 Caddonlee is a farm in the village of Clovenfords in the Scottish Borders area of Scotland, by the Caddon Water, near Caddonfoot where Caddon Water meets the Tweed. The nearest town is Galashiels.

Extract from Records showing the children of Robert Smail and Isabel Murray

 Elizabeth Keddie – Maternal mother’s line of Randall Family

When Elizabeth Keddie was born in about 1800 in Ettrickbridge, Selkirkshire, Scotland, her father James and his mother Janet was 23. Robert Smail married Elizabeth Keddie on 18 June 1832 in Selkirkshire, Scotland. They had at least three children between 1831-1836.

Birth, Baptism and Christening

Elizabeth Keddie was born in about 1800 in Ettrickbridge, Scotland, the daughter of James Keddie and Jean Stiel. Her baptism and christening was held on 18 October 1804 at Peebles, Peebleshire, Scotland.

Death and Burial Details

The fate of Elizabeth Smail née Keddie is unknown. It is known that Elizabeth Keddie was in Selkirkshire in 1841 and then moved to Galashiels, Selkirkshire, sometime between 1841 and 1851.

Place holder for marriage details.

Robert Smail married Elizabeth Keddie in Galashiels, Selkirkshire, on 18 June 1832 when he was 45 and she was 32 years old. Elizabeth Keddie was born in 1800 at Ettrickbridge, Selkirkshire. They probably had four children during their marriage.

Birth of Children 1831 – 1836
  1. Robert and Elizabeth’s child Jas was born in 1831. No further information about Jas is available and the child’s existence is subject to further review and verification.
  2. Daughter Euphemia was born in 1832 in Selkirkshire, Scotland.
  3. Daughter Elizabeth was born in 1834 in Selkirkshire, Scotland.
  4. Son John was born in 1836. No further information about John is available and his existence is subject to further review and verification.
Family Tree Chart
Place holder for death details.
  • Robert Smail died on 10 December 1847 in Galashiels, Selkirkshire, when he was 60 years old.
  • Isobel Smail née Murray probably died in nearby Northumberland, England and was buried at Embleton.
  • The fate of Elizabeth Smail née Keddie is unknown. It is known that she was in Selkirkshire in 1841 and then moved to Galashiels, Selkirkshire, sometime between 1841 and 1851.

Further research, or information from site visitors, may reveal the final fate of both Isobel Murray and Elizabeth Keddie.

As surely as there are stars in the sky, there are sometimes missing documents and mistakes in this database, hopefully not many! Please check and verify any information you find here with your own original research using primary sources whenever possible.

Reviewed and updated on 2 September 2022

2 comments on “Robert Smail 1787-1847 and Isobel Murray 1789-?
  1. Kate says:

    Hello! Robert Smail is also my 4th great-grandfather! I have his date of birth as March 16, 1789 in Lilliesleaf and W as his middle initial. However, our tree shows he married Helen Ramage and their son was William Ramage Smail (my 3rd g-g). I wonder if some information was muddled?

    • Ron says:

      Hi Kate, I regret to advise that following a lengthy review the Robert Smail listed above is not your 4x great-grandfather. Robert never left Scotland and died on 10 December 1847, aged 60, at Galashiels, Selkirkshire, Scotland. An email will be forwarded to you containing information about Helen Ramage, Richard Coulthorp and your 4x great-grandfather Robert Smail. Regards, Webmaster.

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